S03 E12 – We’re on the Floor
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Sean Ashcraft
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Michelle Kinsey
This week on pop culture, we dive into the archives.
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Greg Adams
I was very honored and I take it seriously. I've known these people for most of my life, and, you know, it's like it's a community, you know? It really is.
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Kara DuQuette
We'll take a walk through last year's Indiana Artisan Marketplace.
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Michelle Kinsey
We'll join a practice with the Ball State Studio Band
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Kara DuQuette
and hear an essay on life perspective in this week's Beautiful Thing.
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Michelle Kinsey
That's all coming up in this encore edition of Pop of Culture.
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Luke Jones
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Kara DuQuette
From IPR this is pop of culture. I'm Kara DuQuette.
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Michelle Kinsey
and I'm Michele Kinsey. Our team is a little tired after being live on air last week, so we'll be pulling some interviews from the pop archives
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Kara DuQuette
As we speak, many artisans from all across the Hoosier State are gathered at the state fairgrounds for this year's Indiana Artisan Marketplace.
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Michelle Kinsey
They're ready to showcase and sell their work all this weekend. So we thought we would step back to our walk through of last year's event, and the artisans we spoke with
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Michelle Kinsey
As we made our way into the marketplace, we found some familiar voices, like artist Carol Burt. Carol, good to see you out here.
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Carol Burt
Good to see you, too.
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Michelle Kinsey
So the booth is very busy. Can you describe the atmosphere right now?
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Carol Burt
Yeah, actually, the doors open up and. It's dead for a while. And then suddenly. People have walked through and they've decided to come back. And so it's been packed. It is packed. I mean, there's barely room to move in your area.
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Michelle Kinsey
What does it mean to you to be an Indiana artisan, Carol?
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Carol Burt
Well, it's a wonderful brand to be a part of. And the show here is one of the best venues that I do. So it means a lot to me to be able to continue to make art and sell it. It's wonderful.
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Michelle Kinsey
Describe the things you have at your booth today.
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Carol Burt
Well, I have a lot of functional work. I have plates and bowls. I have a lot of sculptural work. And that's been great. Those have gone really fast. (Oh, wow.) I have canisters and miniatures.
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Michelle Kinsey
What do you hope to get out of participation in the marketplace today?
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Carol Burt
Actually, some rest. Yeah. I've been so busy putting this all together, and I spend a lot of time, you know, planning out the the layout and I think I'm just exhausted right now. So.
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Michelle Kinsey
So today, you just to get to enjoy meeting people.
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Carol Burt
And seeing all customers. And meeting new customers.
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Michelle Kinsey
We also found silk artist Carrie Wright, who we spoke with almost a year ago, in season 1. So can we ask you a couple questions?
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Carrie Wright
You can. I lost my voice yesterday.
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Michelle Kinsey
You did a little bit. Carrie has been an Indiana artisan since 2008. And so talk to me. Describe for the listeners if you will. What you have at your booth today?
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Carrie Wright
Most of my. Booth consists of hand-painted silk art, framed, ready for the wall. I do have. Some wearables as well, because people love great hand-painted silk wearables at an art show especially. So mostly, though, it's framed art.
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Michelle Kinsey
What do you love most about, participating in the marketplace?
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Carrie Wright
My very favorite thing about the marketplace is getting to meet the customer face to face. So much of what we do as artists is done alone in a room. It's very solitary. And so even if people are not buying your art, it is very rewarding to get the feedback and just to get face to face with people.
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Michelle Kinsey
Yes. And I think because I know I do it so I know other people have to do it and you're probably seeing it, people that haven't seen this type of work. It's there is that there is a look on the face there is the eyes widen and the oh, you even get audible sounds of, oh my gosh, this is something I've never seen before.
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Carrie Wright
That's exactly right. Yeah.
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Michelle Kinsey
Which has been amazing to what I feel that as an artist
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Carrie Wright
It's amazing. And also it's nice and refreshing and sometimes. Enlightening to get just the general public's reaction to encountering the art. Yes, it can be very informative in good and bad ways.
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Michelle Kinsey
Yeah. And about then we were ready for a snack.
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Kara DuQuette
Hi. Hi. So funny. Oh, here's my - you’re going to put some candy right in my hand, aren’t you? Heck, yeah. The man handing us candy was Jay Noel. He and his wife own Abbott Candies in Hagerstown and Indianapolis. And you have been in existence. How long?
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Jay Noel
Since 1890.
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Michelle Kinsey
1890. The oldest candy company.
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Jay Noel
In the state of Indiana.
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Michelle Kinsey
That's pretty. Cool.
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Jay Noel
And and also our building that we're manufacturing candy in was actually built. In. 1852. So there's a lot of history to the building that we're in, plus the candy business.
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Michelle Kinsey
And I'm sure some people listening right now may be like, wait a minute, candy. As an Indiana artisan, that's interesting. But Indiana Artisan has always included those who do food, candy, beverages, all of those. Why do you think that's important? To include those that are doing things outside what people may consider art. Art.
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Jay Noel
Because if you're. Looking for gifts, if you're looking for yourself, if you're looking for anything, you're always looking for the best quality. You're also looking for the best value.
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Michelle Kinsey
And as soon as I walked up you handed me this tasty little nugget. Is this a.
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Jay Noel
That's a sample of our caramel. Oh yes. Plain.
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Michelle Kinsey
Listen, this is probably totally inappropriate of me to go ahead and pop that caramel in my mouth, but I couldn't help it. And I'm talking with my mouth full.
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Jay Noel
That's fine. But it is. We approve of that.
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Michelle Kinsey
Yeah, we're going to have to. We're gonna have to end it here because I'm going to need to stop and savor this. After sufficient savoring, we spoke to Lathay Pegues, owner of John Tom’s Barbecue.
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Lathay Pegues
We started, in 2006.
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Michelle Kinsey
In a kitchen in Muncie.
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Lathay Pegues
Yeah. Well, I tell you, it goes further back than that. I actually started trying to recreate my grandfather's sauce in 1998, I believe it was. And then that went on for, like, almost five years. Yeah. And I created this sauce. What people know as John Tom’s Original.
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Michelle Kinsey
Yes.
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Lathay Pegues
It's not my grandfather's. I never duplicated his. But this is what I came up with, with his inspiration.
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Michelle Kinsey
As close as possible. And since then, you've branched out. So describe what it looks like, what it feels like. What happens in agriculture building at the Indiana State Fairgrounds during Indiana artisan.
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Lathay Pegues
Oh my goodness. First of all, it the crowd, the crowd will start building. I mean, it gets to a point in here where like, we can't even take a bathroom break because our booth is so just we're just inundated with people. (Going to the bathroom.) So she's he's able to get a bathroom break right now, but here we get a point where we can't get away.
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Lathay Pegues
And then, you know, this population of people, they appreciate the arts. I mean, we've created something with our own hands. So it's, you know, you're not walking into a big box store and picking up this stuff. Yeah.
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Michelle Kinsey
One thing that stood out at the Indiana Artisan Marketplace is the variety of arts on display. Like previous pop of culture guest rug hooker Tracy Burns. How does it feel to be at the Indiana Artisan Marketplace today?
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Tracy Burns
Well, it's a little overwhelming. This is my first time here.
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Michelle Kinsey
Congratulations.
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Carol Burt
I've been, Indiana Artisn for 20, well, since 2020. Yeah. So, but this is the first time I've actually had a chance to actually be here as a business.
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Michelle Kinsey
Wow. So tell me how it feels like when the doors opened this morning. What were you feeling?
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Tracy Burns
Well, it's taken me a long time to get enough. Pieces even set up. So, so. So it's a little overwhelming. Okay. Did I make enough? Did I not make enough? I make I sell anything, okay? If I sell anything, I’ve got to make more.
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Michelle Kinsey
So, I mean, that’s a good problem to have.
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Tracy Burns
but I'm an artist, right? You know, I gotta make more. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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Michelle Kinsey
So what are you hoping to get out of your first Indiana Artisan Market marketplace experience today?
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Tracy Burns
Well, I teach classes, so, you know, some people. Look at it like, I can't really afford that, but they. Might well learn how to do it themselves.
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Michelle Kinsey
Oh, I love that. So you want to share, you know, how you do all of this, how you create all this beautiful art with others. You want them to do it.
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Michelle Kinsey
Greg Adams makes art from pussy willows. So where do you get your materials?
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Greg Adams
Well, Dumpster diver. (Nice) My wife says I can't do it anymore, but she doesn't always know. But sometimes, you know
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Michelle Kinsey
And now it's going to. Be on the radio.
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Greg Adams
Yeah. There you go.
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Michelle Kinsey
Just make sure she doesn't listen to this one episode.
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Greg Adams
You really. It gives you that adrenaline rush to get back. Okay?
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Michelle Kinsey
Yes, absolutely. Why do you like to be at this marketplace?
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Greg Adams
Because the other. Well, this was a group of people who were chosen specifically.
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Michelle Kinsey
For their craft and their art.
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Greg Adams
And it's quite a honor, you know.
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Carol Burt
Absolutely.
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Greg Adams
So, you know, I was very honored and I take it seriously. Known these people and most of my life from doing shows and things. Yeah. It's a, it's a community. You know. It really is. The first show they had here was 13 years ago. (Wow.) And I was fortunate enough to win best of show that year.
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Michelle Kinsey
The first year out?
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Greg Adams
I cried.
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Michelle Kinsey
Well. Oh, good. I love that. I love that. But being an Indian artisan meant something different to each artist we spoke to. But there was one word they all used to describe the feeling here. Community.
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Kara DuQuette
Michelle, it sounds like you had a great time speaking with all the artisans at last year's Indiana Artisan Marketplace.
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Michelle Kinsey
You know, I did, Kara. There were so many people representing this area. It was wonderful to see. This year's event is this weekend at the State Fairgrounds in Indianapolis.
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Michelle Kinsey
I'm Michelle Kinsey,
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Kara DuQuette
and I'm Kara Duquette. You're listening to Pop of Culture. The Ball State studio band is busier than ever with their lineup of spring shows. So we thought we would look back at when we joined in on one of their practices in season two.
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Ball State Studio Band
(singing) “... it’s love .... it’s love...”
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Michelle Kinsey
You're hearing the Ball State University studio band. And joining me is Cassius Goens. He is the director of the studio band here at Ball State, and he is also associate lecturer of music specializing in jazz percussion. Right. Absolutely. So tell me a little bit about the studio jazz band.
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Cassius Goens
Okay, so the studio band, it was started 2017, 2018 by my colleague Christoph Thompson. Doctor Thompson, who is the head of our music, media and production program here at Ball State. And it was a much smaller outfit than what we have now. It was more like a combo setting. So 5 to 6 students. And they performed out in, Muncie and surrounding areas as well. But only like a few times a semester or a year. It's grown a lot since then. Our program has grown. So to keep up with our program and the demands of the students. So as a studio band.
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Michelle Kinsey
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely been a glow up the studio band because it seems like I'm seeing the names show up all over the place on social media. Performances at the Jazz Kitchen, performances in town, at Be Here Now, private events, fundraisers, galas. I mean, it's all over the place. Why is this so important for the students?
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Cassius Goens
Is so important because it's it's giving them the necessary tools to be professional musicians in the music industry. So it's giving them the tools. They they not only know how to play their instruments and do it well. They're learning tons of repertoire. So, everything from Stevie Wonder to Bruno Mars to Ariana Grande, a, we do classic soul, funk, R&B and myself being a musician, that's still actively performing every week, multiple times every week.
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Cassius Goens
I understand what it takes to kind of be a professional musician and you have to wear many hats. It's it's. I tell my students it's not a straight line. Yeah. You know, being a musician. So, you could get a call to play for a pop group. I got a call to play for a Motown group in a couple of weeks.
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Cassius Goens
So, you never know what you're going to be playing, so I like to have my students be prepared to take those opportunities when they come along. So it's really giving them the tools to do that. But also the other side of the music business, being a professional and knowing how to book gigs, knowing when to show up, knowing how to run a rehearsal, knowing how to how to run sound.
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Cassius Goens
So we set up every day our, our PA system and our mics and everything, and all of the students have a hand in that. So they're getting a little bit of everything so that they're well-rounded when they get done.
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Michelle Kinsey
Yeah, it's it's one thing to be in the classroom or be in kind of a studio session at Ball State. It's another to go out and perform in a variety of different venues. I think that's awesome.
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Cassius Goens
This is a a hands on class, a hands on ensemble.
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Michelle Kinsey
So absolutely, absolutely. I noticed you in rehearsal. You have the biggest grin on your face. Talk to me about how you feel watching these students kind of gel as a band to improve as they go along. And really, I mean, I noticed just in this rehearsal, the the stage presence, the, the, the audience banter, I mean, they've got that stuff down.
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Michelle Kinsey
How does that make you feel as the director?
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Cassius Goens
I mean, it makes me feel great. You know, it's it's all about them at the end of the day. So to watch them kind of blossom into their own and to get better as the semester goes along and to watch their camaraderie between each other as well, is just it's a beautiful thing.
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Ball State Studio Band
(singing) (singing) (singing) (singing)
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Michelle Kinsey
We've got Elijah Neal and he is one of the vocalists with the studio band. Elijah, we just heard you perform some of the tunes that you're going to be performing out and about in concert. First of all, you sounded amazing.
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Elijah Neal
Thank you so much. I really appreciate. That.
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Michelle Kinsey
Tell me how you got involved with the Studio jazz band. Why? Was this something you wanted to be involved with?
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Elijah Neal
So when I originally came to Ball State campus as a vocal performance major and, granted, there are a lot of amazing staples in classical music, but that was all I was doing. And as a vocalist who grew up in church singing gospel, R&B, jazz, like, that's my base. Like, that's that's what I love to do. And so, at first I wasn't really well versed in the ensembles on campus.
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Elijah Neal
My first year, but second semester I got to see studio band perform at one of, like, the collective performances. And I was like, I have to get on stage and do it. And so at the beginning of my sophomore year, which is this year, first semester, I came and I auditioned, they let me in. And it's just been the most amazing experience getting to do the style of music that I've literally been craving to do
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Michelle Kinsey
Time out. So you, you. This is your first year with studio band? Oh my goodness. You seem like a veteran. You seem like you were. I thought you were going to say, oh, I'm a senior and I've been with the studio,
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Elijah Neal
I’m only 20. I’m only 20.
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Michelle Kinsey
My goodness. What is your favorite part about being in studio band?
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Elijah Neal
All in all, just the creative space to create like I it it is so healing to be able to do a style of music, built by vets who created it for people like me. So I just like it is it is such an amazing experience to get to do that, with like minded people who also just love to jam out professionally.
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Elijah Neal
And it's really, it's really fun.
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Michelle Kinsey
Yeah. How important is that as a student to be able to get these experiences real? Like you said, real professional experiences while you're still in class?
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Elijah Neal
Absolutely. So yeah, like with class, like, oh, class is so like stressor. And granted, I am very grateful for the opportunity. I'm also a first gen student, so I'm very grateful to be here representing my family. In my hometown. Gary, Indiana. Go G. But, Studio band is my destresser. It's my. It's my time to relax and create and make music and, kind of build this and practice portfolio that I'm going to be putting out by the time I'm an upperclassman and wanting to do internships and crazy other places and stuff. So. Yeah.
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Michelle Kinsey
Absolutely. So as you look through, because the band has quite a repertoire as you look through there, what are some of your favorites on the list?
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Elijah Neal
I for me personally, one of my favorite songs to sing is Say Yes by Floetry. It is a very just like sensual, fun song. And, I personally don't get to sing in my falsetto much. So I get to kind of unlock this more like feminine sultry side to when I sing. And I just love that song so much.
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Elijah Neal
She's crazy. She like moans, like in the song. Like, yeah, she goes crazy. But my favorite song, like, to hear a song is Pretty Wings. Luke sings that song. He's the other male vocalist in our group, and he just. Oh, his voice is like. It's literally it melts, I melt. I know every time he opens his mouth.
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Elijah Neal
So yeah, pretty wings when he sings that, I'm just in awe.
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Michelle Kinsey
Wow. Now, since you you just joined studio band, do you, understand? Can you comprehend how huge it is that you. The band is playing at the Jazz Kitchen.
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Elijah Neal
I so I've had like, I my mom is a singer. That's where I get my little quirk from. Yeah. And her sisters are performers, and they know artists that have gone to jazz band, because they're based in Ohio. So they're, you know, artists that have performed in jazz band. So when I told them their first.
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Michelle Kinsey
Yes.
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Elijah Neal
That's right. Thank you. Jazz Kitchen. And like, they were just, like, completely geeked for me. Like, I tell my parents, not to, like, travel out three hours from where it's I go. But they were like, we are on it. We bought tickets. Like, I'm so excited. No. Yes. I've like, I've been in the practice room almost every day, like I'm. I cannot forget a lyric. I cannot miss a beat like, this is this is, it's this is one of the biggest, like, performances that I'll be doing.
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Michelle Kinsey
Like, yeah, well, I think we're going to see you a lot in the coming months in studio band and then beyond. I look forward to see what you do. Post studio band, because I'm telling you what, it's amazing.
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Elijah Neal
Thank you guys so much.
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Ball State Studio Band
(singing) You’re my lady. You’re my lady. You’re my lady.
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Michelle Kinsey
How do students get involved with a studio band? Is it an audition situation?
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Cassius Goens
So studio band is, audition based ensemble. We normally hold auditions, the first week of the semester in the fall. So we've had, quite a few students audition, me and my colleague doctor Thompson. We, we sit through many hours of listening to the different instrumentalists and vocalists come through and audition, and then we kind of narrow it down and we make the group from there.
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Cassius Goens
We normally have five vocalists, three horns, two drummers who trade off one plays drums, one plays percussion, two guitars, bass and keys.
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Michelle Kinsey
That's awesome. Do you hear from graduates, that are still doing it, you know, and about their experiences they had with studio. Band
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Cassius Goens
and that's a that's a good point to bring up. We do hear from from graduates and alumni, and we have, alumni of the program. Kambria Moncrief. She's coming back to perform with us at the Jazz Kitchen. She's going to be our guest artist. So she was a student here. She's a graduate of the MMP program, and she was in studio band when it first started.
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Cassius Goens
She's one of the founding members. And so, yes, it's going to be great to have her come back and see how it's it's grown since she's been away and graduated. That's so it's going to be wonderful to have her come back. Yeah, it's kind of a full circle.
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Michelle Kinsey
You can't have a better testimonial than that. Somebody actually moving on doing that and then some. And how wonderful that she wants to come back. And share still share her talents. In case people are not aware, tell them why the Jazz Kitchen is such a huge thing for this group to be able to perform. This is the place where all of the jazz R&B greats perform on a regular basis, and you are on the calendar.
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Cassius Goens
Yeah. So The Jazz Kitchen is the premier jazz venue in Indianapolis. And, I mean, I've seen so many world class, Grammy winning artists graced that stage, so it's really special for us to be able to do the same thing and especially for the students, you know, a lot of the gigs we've played, it's their first time like performing outside of a school environment. So to go straight to like the Jazz Kitchen.
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Michelle Kinsey
That's like zero is 60 in like 2 seconds.
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Cassius Goens
It's a really cool thing. And you know, the jazz Kitchen, the everybody, the staff, David Ali the owner, they're they're all great people. Very much involved in uplifting the musicians in the community in Indianapolis. So that that's a wonderful thing as well.
01;19;11;06 - 01;19;17;06
Michelle Kinsey
Well, congratulations on the success of Studio band. We look forward to seeing you out in the community.
01;19;17;08 - 01;19;19;14
Cassius Goens
Absolutely. Thank you so much.
01;19;19;17 - 01;19;59;08
Ball State Studio Band
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01;19;59;11 - 01;20;11;15
Kara DuQuette
That interview was from season two, episode eight. In 2025.
01;20;11;17 - 01;20;14;09
Michelle Kinsey
This is pop of culture. I'm Michel Kinsey,
01;20;14;17 - 01;20;27;28
Kara DuQuette
and I'm Kara Duquette. The pop team took the week off after last week's 100th episode live celebration. So we're looking back over the last 100 episodes to some of our favorite pop moments.
01;20;28;02 - 01;20;36;26
Michelle Kinsey
And speaking of celebrations, the Academy of Model Aeronautics is celebrating its 90th year with its annual National Fun Fly.
01;20;36;26 - 01;20;45;05
Kara DuQuette
June 25th through the 28th. Our producer, Luke Jones, spoke to the directors of the event back in season one.
01;20;45;07 - 01;20;52;04
Steve Haston
Hi Luke, I'm Steve Haston, I'm the director of the foundation here at the Academy of Model Aeronautics.
01;20;52;07 - 01;20;58;20
Rachel Haughn
I'm Rachel Haughn, Academy of Model Aeronautics Foundation donor program specialist.
01;20;58;23 - 01;21;03;20
Kyle Jaracz
And I'm Kyle Jaracz. I'm the education director here at the Academy of Model Aeronautics.
01;21;03;22 - 01;21;25;22
Luke Jones
Excellent. And we've got you all here to talk about this national Fun Fly event that is this coming weekend. But before then, some folks might not be aware that the Academy of Model Aeronautics, known as the AMA, is actually headquartered in Muncie. Can you talk a little bit about what the organization is and what the connection to Muncie is?
01;21;25;25 - 01;21;50;21
Kyle Jaracz
Yeah, certainly. So, Kyle Jaracz here. The AMA has been around as an organization actually, since 1936. And what we focus on are pretty much anything that flies, that doesn't have a human inside of it. That's our bread and butter. It's what we enjoy doing. And we do that as a hobby. We also have lots of different sporting elements to go along with that.
01;21;50;24 - 01;22;23;13
Kyle Jaracz
And then even potential careers that utilize those kinds of aircraft in the national airspace. And, as part of that goes, you know, we work very closely with organizations like the FAA. The Federal Aviation Administration, for those who might not know, as well as lots of other partner organizations like NASA, who you've probably heard of, the EAA Experimental Aircraft Association and several others, to really celebrate flight and the opportunities to enjoy, aviation.
01;22;23;16 - 01;22;33;17
Luke Jones
Nice. So what exactly do you do at your headquarters in Muncie? And I know there's also the museum attached. What? Not attached, but within the same general area.
01;22;33;20 - 01;22;55;22
Rachel Haughn
So I will tell you, when Amy was founded, it was actually founded in, Washington, DC. And then it later moved to Reston, Virginia, and then in the early 1990s and moved here to Muncie, Indiana, out here by the bypass on East Memorial Drive. And they moved us out here because they thought it would be a good centralized location for our members.
01;22;55;24 - 01;23;14;08
Rachel Haughn
We have members all over the country and also in some foreign countries, and they felt like this is a good property and a good space for them to all kind of meet together to fly together. Here we do all kinds of different things. We have our foundation here. Of course we have education department here. We have a membership department.
01;23;14;10 - 01;23;44;26
Rachel Haughn
We had, about 195,000 members. We have a publications, department that produces a monthly magazine, a print magazine, and a digital magazine that goes out every month. We also have a government relations, department or government affairs department that is often in Washington, D.C., meeting with officials there who make decisions, basically, and rules about model aviation and other unmanned or uncrewed aircraft.
01;23;44;29 - 01;24;14;19
Rachel Haughn
And then also across across the drive here we have the national model Aviation Museum that has thousands of artifacts. I've been told the first artifact dates back before the Wright brothers first flight. So it's pretty, pretty old. We have, in addition to airplanes and propellers and motors and engines, we also have a whole library. Model aviation resources that people can come and visit and and get photocopies of and read through.
01;24;14;22 - 01;24;26;17
Kyle Jaracz
In other words, there's a lot to see. Yeah, actually come out and visit. And, you know, that's kind of what we're here to talk about, which is the upcoming national Fun Fly for the community. And we're really excited about that event.
01;24;26;20 - 01;24;35;02
Luke Jones
Yeah. Perfect segue, Kyle, tell us all about it. What is happening? What is there like to experience this weekend?
01;24;35;04 - 01;25;01;00
Steve Haston
Yeah, Luke, this is Steve. And, yeah, we're very excited about the National Fun Fly. This is a, annual event that we host out here at the AMA. And this year, our 1100 acres are open to the public. It's a community event, and it's really designed to inspire the youth and the other folks in the community all about, aviation and other Stem avenues.
01;25;01;00 - 01;26;14;05
Steve Haston
As Kyle mentioned, many of these folks move into career paths that, have shaped the entire face of aviation and space flight across the world. So now this year, at the front of the Academy of Model Aeronautics, we will have a, RC boating happening on our pond. We have a speaker series where we have women in aviation coming in, and we have some other professors who will talk to visitors about Stem and how aviation impacts, you know, the youth and, and, in the future, we also have drone demonstrations and we have drone racing league will be at the museum site as well. And then from there as you move back to, our site, what we call site one will have RC, aircraft and that is, we call it buddy boxing. But a, a person, anybody, a youth or an adult can take control of an airplane and actually fly it, in the comfort of a pilot's hands. Who can take control if something, something were to go on.
01;26;14;05 - 01;26;18;28
Luke Jones
That sounds like the kind of flying I would need to do.
01;26;19;01 - 01;26;38;27
Steve Haston
Well, I mean, the idea is to to take away some of the stress that's associated with learning to fly model aircraft and also just trying out, ground vehicles, RC boats, as you mentioned, there's going to be, rocketry happening on site, as well as free flight models to both build for youth and then participate with fly enjoy.
01;26;39;00 - 01;26;56;28
Steve Haston
And I don't know if we've mentioned this yet, but free of charge, make absolutely no charge for community members like we want to celebrate aviation and, we see ourselves as a great channel, for those aviation, whether that'll be the hobby, the sporting elements or and future career in aviation.
01;26;56;28 - 01;27;12;04
Luke Jones
So yeah. And on that, for the folks who are coming, who aren’t AMA members or maybe are fans of actual, you know, passenger planes, what do you hope that they learn when they’re at national fun fly this weekend?
01;27;12;07 - 01;27;36;23
Rachel Haughn
I hope, number one, that they have fun and relax and enjoy themselves. That's my hope. But I also want them to see the connection between the hobby and Full-Scale aviation. We have some members who are astronauts, who work for NASA, who designed aircraft to fly, fly on Mars. I mean that everything in the hobby is related basically to something full scale.
01;27;36;25 - 01;27;46;09
Rachel Haughn
So I want them to see that. And the fact that if they started in model aviation, that might to lead to some kind of career in aviation, aeronautics or engineering.
01;27;46;11 - 01;27;51;17
Luke Jones
I love that answer. What about you, Steve? What do you hope for?
01;27;51;19 - 01;28;14;05
Steve Haston
I want the parents to see that by supporting their kiddos that, there's a tremendous number of opportunities in it, and it's, it's a hobby and a sport that can lead them into, you know, hands on experiences and get away a little bit from, you know, that every day. Drudgery being on a device, things like that.
01;28;14;07 - 01;28;32;24
Luke Jones
Yeah. I really love that. It's. I hadn't thought of this. It's a tangible way for youth to see an opportunity in a Stem field. They can. They can touch it. They can feel it. They can see something fly or motorboat on a pond, and it can spark that enthusiasm.
01;28;32;27 - 01;28;51;16
Steve Haston
Definitely. And that's really what we're here to do is, spark that creativity in that imagination and, and do so in a way that's accessible. You know, you don't have to spend tens of thousands of dollars and get your private pilot license and start there. You know, there's there's easier ways to access the skies.
01;28;51;20 - 01;29;03;10
Luke Jones
Wonderful. All right. Let's get the event details down. I know it's this weekend. Friday the 28th through Sunday the 30th. When and where can people come out and find you.
01;29;03;12 - 01;29;27;18
Steve Haston
Yeah. So, the event is the three day, the main community event for, local folks is on Saturday, June 29th, and we're going to have the property open from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m.. The entire 1100 acres and events that all all those sites. And as Kyle said, it's free of charge.
01;29;27;23 - 01;29;36;16
Rachel Haughn
We're going to have, shuttles with free transportation across the site. So if you need to go from one activity to another, you're welcome to hop on one of our shuttles.
01;29;36;18 - 01;30;02;14
Steve Haston
And if I jump in really quick and if you go to model aircraft.org/funfly, that should get you to our website where you can read all about the different activities that are happening. We've barely scratched the surface. And it's just it's this is truly going to be a celebration of all things aviation.
01;30;02;17 - 01;30;07;16
Michelle Kinsey
We spoke to Kyle, Rachel and Steve in season one, episode 22.
01;30;07;23 - 01;30;20;27
Kara DuQuette
If you're a recent listener of pop culture, you can find all of our previous seasons on the NPR app, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcast, and Indiana Public Radio.org.
01;30;21;00 - 01;30;30;22
Michelle Kinsey
We are everywhere.
01;30;30;25 - 01;30;32;03
Kara DuQuette
I'm Kara Duquette
01;30;32;03 - 01;30;45;14
Michelle Kinsey
and I'm Michelle Kinsey. Instead of our usual what are you working on segment, we're looking back at an essay by H.K. Hummel from season two, episode 23, for this week's Beautiful Things.
01;30;45;16 - 01;30;59;29
Jen Blackmer
Today we have a visit with writer H.K. Hummel as part of our ongoing series of micro essays entitled Beautiful Things. HK is joining us from Little Rock, Arkansas. Is that correct?
01;31;00;03 - 01;31;02;24
H.K. Hummel
Yes, I am, thank you for having me.
01;31;02;26 - 01;31;15;27
Carrie Wright
We're we're happy to to be here with you today and HK is going to share with us your Beautiful Thing entitled It Seemed Like Everything Was Still Before Us.
01;31;16;00 - 01;33;14;24
H.K. Hummel
It seemed like everything was still before us. I crack an egg against the edge of the bowl while thinking about the bistro I worked in when I was nineteen. I wore corduroy pants, Doc Marten Mary Janes, and hand-sewn peasant blouses. I wrote poems on the order pad I kept tucked in my apron. I liked stepping out into the hot night and bicycling home under the streetlights. While students loitered over their books at the cafe tables, a boy named Adam taught me how to spin the batter on the griddle. While I practiced, he slouched against the counter and talked about his role in A Streetcar Named Desire. For weeks, I spun crepes in my dreams. I perfected the flip and fold, learned the menu on the sly, neatly plated the coq au vin blanc. The manager discovered what I could do, and made me a cook. That spring, the restaurant clamored with life: ruddy cheeked Joe sang madrigals as he wiped counters. Olivia, a punk with hair as black as motor oil, would snort and roll her smoky eyes at the boys. Everyone had someone to be. Now, I slide a crepe in front of my daughter and remember a dawn morning sugared with the scent of pastry and a single kiss. There was something simple about the way we lived: if we were hungry, we ate. If we wanted something sweeter, we made it sweeter.
01;33;14;26 - 01;33;32;28
Jen Blackmer
That was. It seemed like everything was still before us. H.K., thank you so much. That is lovely. What a lovely piece of remembrance and capturing a moment in time. Can you tell us? Yeah. Can you tell us what inspired this piece?
01;33;33;00 - 01;33;49;18
H.K. Hummel
This essay is based on, just a one spring, when I was young, I think I was, 19 or 20, and I think it was, you know, sort of maybe both springs mushed into one and. Yeah.
01;33;49;20 - 01;33;52;12
Jen Blackmer
And that is an age definitely isn't it.
01;33;52;14 - 01;34;03;17
H.K. Hummel
But yeah. So I was just thinking about who I was then and how it's not so different from who I am now. But also quite different in some ways.
01;34;03;19 - 01;34;10;24
Jen Blackmer
Yeah. And that all of us contain both who we are now and who we were then. Right?
01;34;10;27 - 01;34;12;10
H.K. Hummel
Yes, absolutely.
01;34;12;13 - 01;34;46;22
Jen Blackmer
There's a the line that really, jumps out at me and sort of, you know, causes that that lovely punch in the gut for me is everyone had someone to be. Right? It's not the usual thing we hear. Everyone had somewhere to be. This is everyone had someone to be. Right. So this idea of thinking about our future selves and who we think we're going to be, who we want to be, and how that then infuses our remembrance. Right.
01;34;46;25 - 01;35;12;15
H.K. Hummel
Definitely. I think what also was just amazing was that, you know, we all were so, emphatically ourselves. And I knew it at the time and I can still see it now just how much we had. It just embraced who we were, even if it was only, you know, having a glimmer of what that the potential for that was like.
01;35;12;15 - 01;35;19;15
H.K. Hummel
We were we were completely and utterly ourselves. And that was wonderful.
01;35;19;22 - 01;35;52;09
Jen Blackmer
Yeah. The imagery in particular of the Doc Martin, Mary Jane's, the hand-sewn peasant blouses, and then your friend Olivia, who was punk rock. And. I, I thought actually specifically of people I knew back then, very similar as well as my own self, sort of in that that mélange of of expression. Right. Figuring out who you are through not only the people you're with, but also some of the choices you make in your life.
01;35;52;11 - 01;35;54;03
H.K. Hummel
Yeah. Yeah.
01;35;54;05 - 01;36;24;13
Jen Blackmer
I, I also love the, the idea that you are sharing this with your daughter. Right. As you make a crepe, as you put it in front of, of her and think about who you were then. That also resonates with me deeply as a parent. Right. The, the, the sort of strange combination of wanting your, your kids to see you as a parent, but also the fact that you're a human being.
01;36;24;15 - 01;36;43;20
H.K. Hummel
Right. Well, I think the funny thing was, I'm sure that that particular breakfast was unremarkable. (Right? Yeah.) Normal. Normal breakfast. But in my mind, you know, my mind was going well, sort of time traveling. As I was making breakfast.
01;36;43;23 - 01;36;59;13
Jen Blackmer
Yeah. And that's just perfectly captured in this, in this essay, in the short essay with a beautiful specificity, and a just a moment in time, which is great. Do you know about anything that happens to any of these folks that you spent time with those springs?
01;36;59;13 - 01;37;07;11
H.K. Hummel
No, I wish I did. Yeah, it's a long time ago, so I've lost contact with all of them.
01;37;07;11 - 01;37;25;20
Jen Blackmer
Of course. Yeah. And I think about that too. A lot of, of, you know, the travels that I had as, early, you know, in my early 20s. And a lot of the peoples I encountered, I encountered a lot of the folks I encountered. And in this time, it's what's so interesting is we it's it's much easier to keep in touch with people.
01;37;25;20 - 01;37;40;23
Jen Blackmer
Right. And I know that my own kids, for example, are in touch with so many different people that they've met over the course of their lives. And I'm, I'm curious how that is going to evolve for them as they get older.
01;37;40;26 - 01;38;05;07
H.K. Hummel
It's a really interesting question. Yeah, I think that's, partly just so generational, but, you know, like, you know, I didn't have a cell phone when I was in college, and I had barely had email at that time. Right. And so it was just a completely different sort of reality. I think.
01;38;05;09 - 01;38;29;17
Jen Blackmer
Yeah. Well, what a gorgeous way to spend some time thinking about this moment in your life and how it it, I think, inspires all of our listeners to, think about times when it might have been, as you say, unremarkable. But really, those moments, as they come together to form a life, are what are in fact, remarkable.
01;38;29;19 - 01;38;31;24
H.K. Hummel
Absolutely. Thank you so much.
01;38;32;01 - 01;39;15;08
Jen Blackmer
Oh, thank you, H.K. I so much appreciate your time with us today and your beautiful thing. H.K. Hummel is a writer in Little Rock, the author of Lessons in Breathing Underwater and the forthcoming second edition of Short Form Creative Writing. And we're so grateful for your time today. Thank you.
01;39;15;10 - 01;39;17;23
Kara DuQuette
Michelle, are you ready for our favorite part?
01;39;17;25 - 01;39;20;00
Michelle Kinsey
The arts calendar. Let's do it.
01;39;20;00 - 01;39;44;29
Kara DuQuette
Okay. The Anderson Symphony Orchestra will present Divas of Pop and Soul Saturday, March 28th at the Paramount Theater. This evening will celebrate the legendary women who shaped the worlds of pop, soul and R&B, featuring the music of Whitney Houston, Tina Turner and other iconic artists. The concert begins at 7:30 p.m. and will feature special guest vocalist Cierra Harper.
01;39;45;01 - 01;40;06;15
Michelle Kinsey
Our Town opens this weekend at Gyer Opera House in Lewisville. Our Town is a Pulitzer Prize winning 1938 play by Thornton Wilder that depicts life in the fictional small American town of Grover's Corners. It's an exploration of love, friendship and the beauty in ordinary life. Gyer opera house.com has more info.
01;40;06;17 - 01;40;24;16
Kara DuQuette
The West Wind continues its run at Muncie's Civic Theater this weekend, the final show on Sunday, March 29th. This is an original play written by Muncie residents John and Jenni Marsh that rides the rails across turn of the century America. Muncie civic.org has details.
01;40;24;19 - 01;40;36;15
Michelle Kinsey
The John Beatrice Band will celebrate the 10th anniversary of John's album Farmland Famous Friday, March 27th at the Farmland Community Center. The music begins at 7 p.m.
01;40;36;17 - 01;41;03;21
Kara DuQuette
Also on Friday, March 27th at Roho’s in downtown Muncie. You can hear Alfie Jean and Fella Jack perform beginning at 7 p.m. Andrew Tee will be there Saturday night. New Castle’s Twin Lions Wine Bar will present an uncorked comedy night at 6 p.m. Saturday, March 28th. And The Fierce - full disclosure, Michelle is a member of the band - with special guest K Dog will perform at 7 p.m. at Room Five Piano Bar in Muncie.
01;41;03;21 - 01;41;33;13
Michelle Kinsey
On Saturday, March 28th, The David Owsley Museum of Art at Ball State will host a community chat about the book Bite by Bite: Nourishment and Jamborees. It's part of Muncie Public Library's Big Read effort, which encourages communities to come together through the shared experience of reading and discussing a great book. The conversation will begin at 2:30 p.m.. Learn more about Big Read and how to pick up your own copy of Bite by Bite at Muncie Public Library.org.
01;41;33;15 - 01;41;46;12
Kara DuQuette
Minnetrista Museum and Gardens is offering a Ukrainian egg dyeing workshop at 1 p.m. Saturday, March 28th. Join Carol Powers to learn the centuries old art of Ukrainian wax resist egg dyeing.
01;41;46;18 - 01;41;58;19
Michelle Kinsey
Bob Dylan will bring his Rough and Rowdy Ways tour to Emens Auditorium at Ball State on Tuesday, March 31st. And yes, that Bob Dylan. The concert begins at 8 p.m.
01;41;58;21 - 01;42;08;13
Kara DuQuette
Thursday, April 2nd, is the first Thursday in Muncie. Look for new exhibits, browse downtown shops, catch some original music and more. Between 5 and 8 p.m..
01;42;08;15 - 01;42;16;01
Michelle Kinsey
Our own Maya Doss will be the featured artist in the Muncie Civic Theater lobby, hosted by the Muncie Arts and Culture Council.
01;42;16;04 - 01;42;37;13
Michelle Kinsey
And next Saturday, April 4th, is the Magic City SIP and Savor event at MadJax in Muncie. The event will include tasty beverages, makers, music, food, and much more. Send your arts and culture events to us at Indiana Public radio.org slash. Contact. Then click. Pop of culture.
01;42;37;16 - 01;42;57;15
Luke Jones
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01;42;57;17 - 01;43;02;23
Michelle Kinsey
And that's our show. Our fact checker and ethics curator is Stephanie Wiechmann.
01;43;02;26 - 01;43;11;03
Kara DuQuette
This week was produced by Andrew Montavon, who thought it would be a good idea to give Luke a break after every 100th episode.
01;43;11;06 - 01;43;16;15
Michelle Kinsey
Don't worry, we still had production assistant and plenty of exchanged emails from Luke Jones.
01;43;16;19 - 01;43;21;18
Kara DuQuette
Our audio fellow is Maya Doss and our show was hosted by me, Kara Duquette
01;43;21;18 - 01;43;23;10
Michelle Kinsey
and me, Michelle Kinsey.
01;43;23;12 - 01;43;27;25
Michelle Kinsey
Pop of culture is a production from IPR on the campus of Ball State University.
This week… we’re still recovering from celebrating our 100th episode! So we’re listening back to some of favorite trips in past seasons: we find local artists on the floor of the 2025 Indiana Artisan Marketplace, we look to the skies with members of the Academy of Model Aeronautics, and The Ball State Studio Band brings us into their rehearsal. We’ll also have a brand new arts calendar!
